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Today
(21/08/13) the poster proposed and approved unanimously by Preston Parish
Council appeared in the Parish Notice Board, it is as described by the Chairman
at the time of the meeting and contains information to residents who may wish
to have the issues listed in this blog addressed. This information that quite
rightly but very briefly explains resident’s legal rights should have been
released by the council many years ago and, not as a reaction to this blog but
it has now been released. For our part we will consider the poster one of our
successes because without our persistence this information would never have
been released and it is important information that residents should be aware
of.
If we put the
poster into context it has no value for us at all, we are already fully aware
of the points and the legal references the poster contains, we have also
considered them all some time ago and we have taken all those steps that the
poster says we should as residents.
There is just
one step we haven’t taken, that is to complain to the District Auditor, this we
believe will be extremely expensive for the Parish and cannot be justified when
there is a viable alternative which costs nothing and virtually no time, the
council should produce the agenda and minutes which records council approval of the
expenditure or give a full explanation to the resident who requested it, the
council has that residents name, address, phone number and email contact on
file so if the council is serious they should be able to do that pretty well
instantly.
The final
paragraph says the council can’t have got anything wrong so it must be a
resident who has ‘misunderstood’ or ‘misconstrued’ the council in some way,
lets not be silly, getting the same response from the council time after time
is not a mistake on our part! This is not a resident fault it is quite
definitely a council fault!
If the council
now wish to resolve these issues they should talk to the residents involved and
not hide behind a poster. That is in the council’s hands, they have all the
relevant information.
The council has
a responsibility to deal with the issues raised, not abdicate when the going
gets tight and pass them over to residents to deal with by way of a poster. We
prepared the post below before we had sight of the poster, at this time we see
no reason to alter the post.
4. Petition proposed by Parish
Council
Because
this is not yet an approved motion by the council we are addressing it off the
top of our heads so please forgive any minor errors, we do not see the value in
rereading the relevant legislation until there is a firm and approved motion by
the council. In that event we shall look at it again in detail and respond
appropriately. Also, we do not know what form any petition would take so we
have covered a number of options in order of importance.
There
was an option voiced that the council could start a petition and put it on
their web site to see if,
1st. Residents wish to leave the council as
it is,
2nd.
Merge it with another council or,
3rd.
Abolish Preston Parish Council.
Sounds
suspiciously like a Governance review we put forward on this blog some time ago
but at least they got the order right. We don’t know who came up with that
suggestion but it sounds half baked to us, unclear and not thought out before
being proposed. Would we want to leave such an important decision as this in
the hands of our current Parish Council, probably not we’d most likely end up
being merged with ‘Royston Vasey’, but at least most councillors would feel at
home! This is not a step the council could take on their own by using their web
site.
How effective could this
strategy be?
1st.
If the outcome was to leave the council as it is, that could be used as a vote
of confidence by the council, all the council would have to do is intimidate
residents into fearing the unknown and a majority will most likely vote to stay
as we are, even those who don’t agree with the council will probably vote that
way in the hope that things may change in the future. That result wouldn’t
affect us so we wouldn’t be going anywhere until we get answers.
2nd.
Merge Preston Parish council with some other parish council, which could be
effective if Preston council were to be downsized and the right councillors
left, we would be prepared to leave them in peace giving them the benefit of
the doubt. We have no problem with the majority of Parish Councillors, if the
influence of a few councillors were to be removed the remaining councillors
would most likely be free to work in the best interests of residents and
probably do a good job.
3rd.
If the council was abolished and transferred to the control of East Riding,
that would be fully effective because the people who have caused this chaos
would no longer be there because all councillor positions would have to be
abolished as part of the process so they would be making sure everybody else
went down with them, but that seems to be ok as far as they are concerned just
so long as they don’t have to answer the questions!
Not
quite the caring bunch of folks we are lead to believe they are, it could be
disastrous for the Village but the councils opinion seems to be….what the hell,
as long as we don’t have to answer to residents!
So
if your using this option as a weapon to defeat this blog, the only way you can
win is to eliminate yourself, doesn’t make any sense at all, but that’s
precisely why it has the parish council written all over it. They think it’s a
good plan even though its ill conceived, not thought through and
self-defeating.
Governance Review.
For
the size of population Preston has, any petition to the East Riding Council for
such a review would require a minimum of 250 signatures (Governance Review requirement) from registered electors of the
parish, considering attendance at council meetings and general interest in
council affairs the chances of getting that many residents to sign up for it
are slim to zero, at least not without very active campaigning.
The
positive impact (for the council) would be that the council would be able to
say we have a process taking place and we can’t answer any questions yet, we
must wait for the outcome, that would probably ensure they survive until any
election and would be able to step down without answering anything, tactically
it could work, morally it’s a travesty.
The
serious part is that the council is prepared to go to all that trouble, spend
boat loads of our money on the process and risk so much of residents wellbeing
and Preston’s identity just to avoid answering a few basic questions from a
resident, something’s definitely not right, red flags should be raised in all
our minds! What the hell are these people trying to hide! Everything points to
the fact that there is something we are not meant to know and the council will
keep it to themselves at any cost, even if it costs Preston it’s identity or
destroys the Village. If there is nothing to hide or fear, answer the questions!
The alternative is that the council has a personal vendetta against an
individual resident and are discriminating against that resident!
Even
though the council used the word “Petition” we have so far interpreted this as
a ‘Governance Review’ because of the councils range of options (abolition of a
Parish Council requires a legal process to take place and the end position
needs to be resolved) and the fact that the council would be required to submit
to East Riding a valid “petition” from residents to trigger a review. If the
council were to petition for a review East Riding would be required to carry
out the review, once it’s in the hands of ER it should take about 6 months.
If
this is the councils intention they need to obtain credible and accurate advice
because we believe (again, we haven’t read the legislation for a long time) the
review is under the jurisdiction of the “Boundaries Commission” and if the
council make mistakes in the preparation and detail it could go disastrously
wrong for Preston as a village, very easily.
If
a governance review is petitioned for we would push very hard for Preston South
boundary to be included and possibly transferred to Hedon.
Parish Petition.
If
the council is referring to a simple “petition’ of residents, this can be done
quite easily and simply, all you need is (if our memories serve us well) 10
signatures from registered electors of the parish and your away, any group of
residents can request a petition of the parish, it doesn’t need to be connected
to the parish council in any way but the council we believe will be responsible
for picking up the tab, that’s why we haven’t done it but, that position is due
for review in the near future.
This
route is also not entirely without its pitfalls, at the time the petition is
submitted it is required to have the question(s) on the petition and from that
point it is taken out of the “petitioners” hands and is conducted by East
Riding Council but the results of the petition are not legally binding on
either East Riding or the Parish Council, any outcome that wasn’t overwhelming
could be another total waste of our money.
The
point in favour of a simple Parish Petition is that it would need one simple
question, “Should Preston Parish Council be required to answer questions posed
by ‘Mrs A Resident”, with a simple ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answer.
An
overwhelmingly positive response would place the council in an impossible
position and although there is no legal requirement for the council to comply
with the outcome any parish council who chose to ignore such heavy opinion from
their electorate would be foolish in the extreme.
We
would be happy if the council decided to follow this route, we have already
discussed the option at length some months ago and had one of our team prepare
an action plan to campaign for a positive outcome so our team is ready and
waiting to go at short notice!
Private Petition.
However,
if the council are thinking of their own private little number independently of
East Riding and putting it on their own web site (as they state) we would then
seriously have to reconsider our own position and most likely petition east
riding to conduct the process.
Until
the questions of dishonesty are fully satisfied there can be no confidence in
Preston Parish Council conducting such a poll in an unbiased and honest manner!
There
is a 4th alternative, which the parish council don’t appear to have
considered but we have and we are prepared to start that process depending on
the parish councils actions.
The
councils poster is unclear and confusing to residents who are understandably
unfamiliar with Local Government Administration. Instead of mentioning only the
most complicated type of ‘petition’ the council should have taken the time to
explain the ‘range’ of petitions available to residents in a much more ‘user
friendly’ manner, it is much easier for residents to organise a ‘Parish
Petition’, a relatively simple and more controllable solution to residents
disenchantment with the parish council then to get involved in the complexities of a ‘Governance Review’.
In
our view the council poster has given a ‘knee jerk’ reaction to the situation
that hasn’t been thought through and that demonstrates the councils lack of
commitment to residents.
If there are any residents with similar experience of
the council do please contact us by comment or email. If you wish to remain
anonymous please use our email facility, if you wish we will post on your experience
without your identity being released, or not post anything if you simply want
to share your experience it’s entirely up to you. We would love to hear your
story, your not alone, there are a number of us, let us compare notes and grow
as a group.
Thank you for that explanation easy to follow it now makes some sense. IMaybe you would cover more subjects, we understand very little about parish councils.
ReplyDeleteHi S Smith.
ReplyDeleteWe have had the same request a few times now and may consider it next time we meet but we are far from being experts in Local Government Administration so what we could possibly contribute would we're sure be basic information, we'll let you know the outcome in due corse.
Thank you for your comment.
We liked your Royston Vasey analogy had a game of who would play which part, hilarious!
ReplyDeleteYeah we've played the same game, good fun.
ReplyDeleteThank you for your comment.
No one is able to find out anything about the play park or what its costing us the council are keeping the lid on everything its all a big secret. Could we have a parish petition on that and make the council come clean. There hasnt ever been any consultation to say the magority of residents want this, just a few parents who wrecked the original one who now want another freebe now they have kids.
ReplyDeleteTheres a lot of people who don’t agree with a play park so how do we go about making the council tell us just how many people do agree with it.
What do we have to do to get answers and our opinion heard!!!
Hi Preston elector and taxpayer.
DeleteWe fully understand your concerns, but it may be a little late to change what is happening, Even so you have a right to have your voice heard along with others, we will respond to you in full as a post. The post because of the subject may be lengthy so we may have to cover it in a couple of posts. We will try to post later today.
Thank you for reading and thank you for your comment.
The Team.